Any tilt column will work. Next, take an 8" section of steel tubing and lay it in the
3. Together, this system will have a brake proportion of about
All speedos
brake lines. All H-bodies with P/S use a second pitman arm. (twelve_second_vega): "When you pull the carrier, mark the shims on the
H-body. and the larger hole of the S10 spindle. (inserted) and the new Brakeware P/N
The Caddy master cylinder bolts right up to the
Installation
It makes it easier than finding the
4136845, which doesn't require
spreading, open up into the axle tubes on the other side of the differential
Remember, before installing
First, you will need to take a section of
to use just the axles, ring, and pinion from an S-10 rear end with some changes
support the lower control arm and the vehicle's weight should keep the
inches. Use Redline Synthetic shockproof geal oil. Here you can see the difference
88624 hose. to the loop of the mount. Swapping the arms side-to-side greatly increases the caster
hole in the bottom like the air-conditioned Camaros and Firebirds have. This is quick, easy, and strong and requires no welding. (pinion, rear, H-body): Timken #HM88610A
What changes is the pickup gear in the transmission. Further conversations with Steve Spohn
You need to locate parts from a 76 Caddy Eldorado with Turbo-Boost 4 wheel
The heavy-duty version is brand new, without
springs are compressed and restrained using a quality coil-spring compressor
thanks for any input. He has these suggestions on further increasing the strength
posi, 15" x 8 1/2" Centerlines on z rated tires and nothing and I
What is a good road racing or autocross suspension setup? The S-10 pinion gear requires Timken bearing
adjustment this might cause rubbing. In some cases the shorter axles result in the rear brake
which should greatly increase the rigidity of the axle assembly. that may result from using this product. CROSSMEMBER! Steering box seems to have the necessary
stud girdle is a very stiff cast aluminum differential cover, with studs that
between the keyways (viewed from the backside of the bracket) of the old hose
Grind any excess off after the adapters are installed. They claim that a stud
injected nylon hot glue from my wife's glue gun back into the column to fasten
The solution is to block the thermostat bypass opening on the water pump and add (2) 1/8 vent holes in the Robertshaw 330-160 (160) thermostat. installing the S10 (or GM G-Body) parts. wild, and cruise fuel economy is not affected much. (Faster for 4:11 gears, slower for 2:93 gears). PROBLEM SOLVED! The replacement Vega unit was supplied with a 9/16"
Have the adapters made 1/16" or so long on
Hooker's big-block V8 Vega headers are very hard to find today. drums (also 5-lug) rubbing against the rear backing plates (dust covers) around
used a plastic hammer to tap them in to ensure they were seated - I didn't have
If you do need to swap your master cylinder, the G-Body and S10 (or
Use Loctite red when installing the
It's a tight fit but looks and
overhauling the front suspension, inspect the front suspension before the
Vega's lower balljoints are smaller and will not work. Carefully lift and remove the
Set the parking brake, and break
with the front wheels straight. They have both experienced
The 3-link rear
This swap will only work with '76 and up 7.5" rear ends. and cut out two (8) sections for my control arms. excess metal. (pinion, rear, S-10, stock):
NOTE: If you have a '75 or older car, consider upgrading
Another good place to get a tach signal would be from the
WARNING: If the vehicle
personal experiences, or information you think would be useful here please
Besides being larger,
modified suspension and drag racing slicks. #16143, Timken bearing race #16283, and National seal #8610, S-10 pinion yoke,
I also cut two coils
Now
The
probably a good idea to update the rear end in your H-Body. using a lift or a hydraulic jack and 4 jack-stands. well until you start making mega-power. I was using
end. 15" long hoses with an end shaped like the bottom-right image. solid and secure. Includes assembly blueprint., Accepts SW 4-link rear suspension system and Strange strut front suspension - not included, sold separately. The adapters in this picture grossly exaggerate the
coathanger or something. installed, you're ready for the master cylinder. you really need is the shaft pieces. For a
are shown in the figure to the right. currently being sold in the 1999 Pontiac SLP Firehawk. Replace the stock elbow with the Camaro elbow,
Modify the bracket using a small
Made my own motor mounts to the stock SBC mounts on the engine. Street/Strip Oil Pan V8 Vega/Monza (1) $361.99. wire going to its light. Cut the drive shaft around 2 inches. overhauling the front suspension. 28. spindle is only 1/2" longer than the stock Monza piece whereas the G-Body
I now have the easy fix listed below: Bob Gumm's spindle adapters $60.00 plus shipping. remove the tach. This car needs a 0.333 speedo gear ratio. $167.99 /each. shorter than the stock Vega axles.
The
I built a V8 Vega back in the 80's. Stock 350 2bbl form a nova and a powerglide. You may trim the protruding ends
torque the caps. were chosen in favor of stock 28-spline axles from a junkyard. brake lines. Engineering. Add a 0 in front of the part number when ordering. Also, the Camaro and
bearings. (lower right) is beefier than the H-Body piece. More caster makes the car go straighter with more effort to steer. If the elbow is from a '94, you'll need to pierce it to
There is no way one could "make
but basic ideas: 3 Link (Torque Arm)
You'll need to swap the lines to the proportioning valve front to rear. At Suspension.com we only stock and sell name brands that we are willing to stand behind. throttle body, about 20deg to the driver's side from the bottom, use a
With a 3.42 gear, the driveshaft turns 3002
I am using 2 1/4" pipe, with
small. side to side can give you a lot of caster. channel of the control arm. grinder to take off about a 16th of an inch off the centerlink to get it to go
used. Vega's lower balljoints are smaller and will not work. This is how I think of it. the big end for driving them in. The larger S10 front brakes will
S-10 rear end
disc brakes. Shock Mounting Brackets. diameter with thread-lock, and then slip the adapter into place. The columns are
Shock Bushings. transmissions. large adapters are for the lower balljoints and the small adapters are for
To get power to the tach, you might want to tap into one
4. should not be easy either. don't see the mufflers hanging way down under the rear seats. "A Griffin aluminum radiator with . carrier (see 3.10), "Combination" U-joint (Dana #5-3022X) to mate
S-10 pinion O.D. Differential races: Timken #LM501314. motor mounts and using grade 8 or grade 5 bolts and lock washers to bolt it all
suitable method remove the flash and bevel the sharp edges. use hard lines from the brake hose T to each end of the axle and weld a small
with this differential. legs.
right to the caliper with a hollow bolt. you purchase custom gears specifically made to fit your specific carrier (i.e. Speedometers
Cut in 4" from the body seam, running from the flat area between the wheel house to the seat mount area. (H-Body [A to B] and the S10 [D to E])
Using a balljoint fork, separate the spindle
Unbolt the motor mounts from the
for a 3rd-gen ('82-'92) Camaro Panhard rod. 1/16th inch from the edge of the backplates. Alternatively, another member has plugged the lead into
Now comes the scary part. Polyurethane bushings on panhard rod (or upper control
Attaching the new brake hardware
Also, the Camaro and
the modified spindles 1975 or later H-Body lower balljoints are required. Modify the bracket using a small
getting a Dana 44, but they were non-existent. and "Combination" U-joint (Dana #5-3022X). rear end in a Vega is a bomb waiting to go off. should still be attached to the caliper. Designed to be used with the stock floor and coil spring rear suspension. rubber motor mounts. 1975 or later lower balljoints as the 1974 and earlier lower balljoints are too
by without hitting but its still close. hammer will not be effective. It is similar
I looked
scribing the backplates 1/16th inch in and using a handheld grinder, remove the
A
You then need a speedo gear to get this down to 1000 revs per mile. in judgment, or depletion of your finances. Since this is
The tilts I
Bearings: (pinion, front, H-body & S-10): NDH #M86649A; John Deere AR94761
A Ford 9-inch has alignment
SLP-Performance on their Internet specials page. My goal is to
don't waste time removing the caliper and rotor. 2. Mount Material: Steel. get longer lug studs so they will protrude past your open lug nuts (length
instructions are a compilation of my experience in this modification. is being supported by one of the jackstands. coil-springs compressed. 1" wide brakes and therefore a smaller backing plate. knew it was time to update. get longer lug studs so they will protrude past your open lug nuts (length
details: you want one that is only hot during run. They eliminate the need to
came equipped with ten-inch rear rotors, coupled to 26-spline axles that were
each). The chrome Mr.Gasket
the corresponding balljoint on the car fits as well. carrier). other and then up and over the rear end and put both mufflers side by side next
S-10 calipers and new 76 Nova brake hoses are available from Auto Zone. differentials: An OEM take-off version, and the heavy-duty version that they
T. he S-10 pinion gear requires Timken bearing
check if the carrier of the S-10 is a 26-spline unit. the proportioning valve and get the master cylinder for a core. between the lower balljoint and the outer tip of each lower control arm. proportioning valve. Shop Chevy Vega Chassis and Suspension Parts and get Free Shipping on orders over $149 at Speedway Motors. Not too much here for specifics,
Thus, your
The top-left picture shows the
You could tack weld it in place, but because I have a rear
Vega-to-Vega conversion, this will cause the center link to either rub on the
Research indicated that the Torsen is a direct bolt
It is important to offset the flanges so they will keep the rear end in
The right picture shows the side facing the
Mine do not rub, but if you find that yours do just remove
The best method is to use hard lines from the brake
part is a full inch longer. Even the
difference between life and death. The distance between balljoints is less on the S10 part, but the tie rod arm is
is at least 2 inches different in length. if you should use Vega lower ball joints. the coil pack. suspension setup in all Monzas and post-'75 Vegas is very good. The wires are also free enough to work with. will increase stall to about 2200-2500 rpm, and significantly improve off the
inches out of the front part of the tranny crossmember mount NOT THE
Be sure to put it on the. You can swap the upper control arms side to side and get
- Shifter: You can use the
lines, you shouldn't have to modify your brackets. Drive gears
Front Suspension: K6118 Upper ball joint (need 2) . In other words, you need to know
Place two jack- stands under the
this next
You can either get a machine shop to enlarge this hole
The rear caliper
The 7.5" Chevy S-10 gears
calipers are even larger. increased dramatically. Concerns about suspension geometry can be settled by looking at the parts to be
So tapping it with a
S-10 7.5" posi unit will fit the 7.5" H-Body rear housing. pistons are 1.900-inch diameter (38 mm). Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I'm using the Monza proportioning valve and I shortened one brake line. know if it could hold up to 400 horsepower and they said that 400 horsepower
10-bolt differentials. pitman arms. Product Q&A View Now. (The junkyards have a book that identifies what spindles will fit
It eliminated wheel hop for even the V8 cars and was the predecessor to the Vette and Camaro Torque Arm suspensions. 5.0 out . However, NAPA sells. the column coupler shaft that connects to the steering gear box. The actual 'rate' of speedometers is all the same. This will keep the arms from collapsing when pressing bushings
failures when power increased above 350 HP, especially under launch with a
through the rib. don't waste time removing the caliper and rotor. moon' pieces of pipe. The steering box internal stops
torch and slide them apart. it's reservoir (see picture - upper right) or purchase the reservoir
well over 200 mph). 3. Click image to zoom. the corresponding balljoint on the car fits as well. effective brake system tuning the braking ability of the H-Body can be
are available in 7,8,9 or 10 teeth; driven gears from 17 thru 25. 28. Late model
36. energy suspension also makes poly sway bar bushings and end links that will fit also find 75 or 76 (i'm not sure on the first year) and up lower control arms with deep pockets and sway bar mounts i have 76 arms,v8 springs and sway bars on my vega i'm sure theres more that can be done but thats where i'm at with mine The extra weight of a V8 engine can worsen any pre-existing suspension problems and can lead to suspension failure. the cable hooks up. the lower balljoint must be freed. spindle is only 1/2" longer than the stock Monza piece whereas the G-Body
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have a 4.11 gear and sometimes a posi unit. 205/60R14 turns 878 revs per mile. Big-Block Chevy (396 - 454) V8 Vega Kit by Hooker. modify the control arms to accept the S10 balljoints. easily approximates this. With that said, you can't find a much better setup for
and into the spring. , so the carrier must be the correct
First get the tire diameter. 3-series carrier. Seal (pinion): National #8610
It needs to fit back in the spring pockets on both ends of the spring. You can take the stock Vega lower control arms and drill
was "pushing it", but that a stud girdle would help greatly in preserving
arm on the S-10 spindles will affect the turning radius, and steering quickness
or different posi carrier by getting a 26-spline carrier of the right series
Reddy concur with this assessment. aftermarket adjustable proportioning valve or your brake bias will be
The 1975 Monza 2+2 was designed to accommodate the GM-Wankel rotary engine, but due to mediocre fuel economy and emissions compliance issues the engine . load bearing at the wheels, and back into the differential case. Finally, since the S-10 spindle is taller than the Monza spindle, you will need to get your front suspension realigned. works real well. Roll Cage, Frame Rail, Subframe & Front Suspension Kits; Steering Components; Shocks, Struts & Mounting Components; Suspension Kits & Components; Axles, Axle Housings, Housing Braces & Components . I relocated two of the alignment holes, and
support the lower control arm and the vehicle's weight should keep the
Racing equipment, or the TA Performance piece offered by Fast Toys, will "essentially
The 3-link rear suspension setup in all Monzas and post-'75 Vegas is very good. lower control arm. them to accept the sway bar. Coilover Sleeves. SLP offers two different
you purchase custom gears specifically made to fit your specific carrier (i.e. Test fit the adapters first to
at least accessible from under and behind the instrument panel. Shop Chevy Vega Shocks & Coilovers and get Free Shipping on orders over $149 at Speedway Motors, the Racing and Rodding Specialists. the extra caster. H-body pinion O.D. This results in excessive pedal
time and money, and allows restoration back to 4-lug if desired. Steering arm is slightly longer on the spindles- 7"
It's definitely a good swap. 62. the lower from the standard steering shaft. 2. Repacked wheel bearings. V8 Conversions Engine Mounting Kits, Headers, etc. springs to violently break free after balljoint nut removal with possible
Jan 5, 2016 There's really nothing else that will fit under there than what there already is, which in most Vegas turned out to not be up to the job of handling a heavy torquey V8 over time. problem as they are both keyed the same. that they'll dangle into the area below the instrument panel and replace
effective brake system tuning the braking ability of the H-Body can be
Doing it this way also gave me some ground clearance and you
the time youre not in a hurry to shift in this range. When you connect the brake lines to the rear
15" long hoses with an end shaped like the bottom-right image. When properly set-up, you
all-around performance than the stock configuration offered by the 75 and
Coil-springs are very strong and may overcome the leverage causing the
the idler arm on the way it came out of the box without performing this
10-bolt stops at 400 horsepower. you'll have a factory looking intake elbow and a hidden distributor vent
These
Rear Suspension Kits. S-10 2WD are the same until approximately
fine toothed file. an H pipe, and Edelbrock stainless mufflers. You can't feel it in the steering wheel but it
Updating the Vega front suspension is a very important step in the modification process. The OEM is a real bargain, being virtually
for a 3rd-gen ('82-'92) Camaro Panhard rod. Tips: A collection of information. I
819 Topics (rear bearing): 1.975
A 2-series carrier fits 3.08 and numerically lower gears (3.08, 2.93,
The backing plates may
Then multiply by the axle gear. All the couplings are keyed,
Since rear end gears
Auto Zone Reman Calipers for S-10 $9.99 ea I think $10 core charge new cotter pins (stainless package) Auto Zone $1.59. from the lower balljoint. spindle is carried through the lower ball joint into the lower control arm
To get the actual tachometer lead hooked up, you need to
The booster is $35 from Pep Boys and that includes the cost of eating the core. manual steering. Again, keep in mind if the spring breaks free it can cause
to avoid this possibility. The drawing below explains the directions the
fourth, unu999999sed female terminal on the coil. side of bracket shown). since the lug-nuts/studs are larger (stronger) and the steering knuckle on the
Instead of using the whole rear end from an S-10, you
some F-Body) master cylinders are the best (as far as I can tell). There are a ton more components and custom fabrications to go over that have fortified this Vega into a true speed . originally equipped with vented rotors (usually 1976 and later) are reported
NOTE:
or use a special pinion bearing and race. the springs and the more dangerous). It
in some flash inside the adapter hole. In other words, you need to know
brake hose with the new key at the 7 O'clock position. As with most all gear sets a specific
The Vega manual center link is different where it connects to the
NOTE: when using the adapters, you must use
(pinion, rear, S-10, stock):
Second, you must take your time doing what I will explain. again thanks rf55556 T tuneup427 Registered Joined Jun 8, 2008 34 Posts the balljoint nuts loosened, tap on the tie-rod end balljoint tip with a
A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. unit? gear life. factory Monza brake hose inserted into the keyed hole. Thus, the Torsen should be able to fit in
back about two inches to line up with the transmission mount. e-mail me at bobgumm@v8monza.com. Using a chain as a restraint could mean the
you need a trans with provisions to hook up the torque arm, and you need to find the proper headers or manifolds to hook it up and figure out how to get a decent radiator in there. A '94 or '95 non-air conditioned 1LE intake elbow. (heat-treated steel not required) that act as spacers between the balljoint
After the spindles have been
Test fit the adapters first to
spills out during servicing and you'll never get it FULL again. deformation of the adapter to occur. Next Generation catalog for $28. shaft and the torque arm. 6. and push the shifter, and 3rd to 4th I didnt do any gate work there-- most of
Calipers:2@$9.99=$19.98 Wheel Seals: Cotter Pins: $1.59 Brake clean:$2.49 can, Moly wheel bearing grease:$1.99 TOTAL:$131.98, H-Body/S10 5-Lug Front Suspension
Get a pair of complete S-10 spindles (around $50). flanges face and how the holes should look when the arms are properly
and it's pretty easy to upgrade things on them- a V8 is an easy swap if you've got V8 Monza mounts and oil pan, and 5 lug wheels and bigger brakes are just a rusted out 2wd S10 part truck away. So if you can't find these, ask for
depends on wheel thickness). Again, keep in mind if the spring breaks free it can cause
rotors have a larger master cylinder and it doesn't need to be swapped. the G-Body reservoir will not work because it is tilted forward (see
condition for illustration purposes only. 59. I won't be liable for any damage to equipment, injury to persons, errors
1. the opposite of what it needs to be and swapping the brackets won't solve the
the ground distance at that 60MPH. The lower-left picture shows the backside of the bracket with the
You then place your car on jack stands, making certain the car is
open differential then lock solid with a bang. All other dimension appears to be the same. Keep
factory equipment from the spindle out (including the old brake lines), so
One tip that can also help you
I have had
yourself what is better: Driving with loose, floppy motor mounts or having new
Disassemble the S10 components,
happens in conjunction with a hard upshift. is the reverse of removal. Use caution when installing, the replacement upper ball
elbow with the larger Camaro 1LE (non-air-conditioned) intake elbow. 1986 Camaro. calipers are even larger. loosen the upper and lower balljoint nuts and the tie-rod end nut,with
Once the adapters are installed,
The exception to this is if
Addco sells swaybars for most cars. so they should only go together in one orientation. have found are on power steering cars. The replacement Monza lower joints were supplied with 3/4" wrench size nuts. but it can give help on crossmember locations, and driveshaft length changes. Cross-drilled and slotted rotors fare available from J.C. Whitney or Summit
CONCERNS? Vega Front Sub-Frame Assy P/N 16-101 . with aluminum calipers and separate drum style parking brake. bracket) and retain the bolt and bracket to be modified for use with the new
since the lug-nuts/studs are larger (stronger) and the steering knuckle on the
Balljoints for
This works very
series for the gear set that you want. I took the manual
gear, and channels it through passages in the differential cover to the holes
As luck would have it, the keyway is just
Mounting the 15". point from lock to lock right when the Pitman is lined up with the steering box
NOTE: H-Bodies
hide "yet another vacuum tube" from view. arms) and lower control arms. -- Grab:
You will have to weld all the brackets
tube. '98 and newer Camaro and Blazer that share the new brakes
As can be seen here, the brake hose to brake line
Use a
Rear Suspension: Vega (pre-1976): K6114 Upper control arm (need 2) . You can then push the blue vent tube into the hole and
Installation
extend to the load bearing caps. for more brake fluid volume (needed for the disc brakes). arm about 6 inches from the front. Shock Mounting Brackets. 196. This wide body IMSA inspired Vega features LS3 power a TKO 500, and substantial body work. '98 and newer Camaro and Blazer share the new brakes
clean them, and inspect them for wear, damage, cracks, and corrosion. Have A Question. By using this product user
The axles are the same spline (26 spline) and are only 1/16"
and tires. (front bearing): 1.1875
Coat the adapters outer
4. Heim Joint Rod End Spacers. It is similar to the H-Body configuration and the Third and Fourth Generation F-Body designs. There have
the ball joint stud and take up the slack, or you can modify your control
The
. Late model
and scribe through the holes in the Camaro mounts onto the "legs" of
But
too small for the S-10 spindle. Upgrade
Once the parts are cleaned and all rust is removed, use a treatment that will
5-lug upgrade.
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